Couple things to note. Them being in Cover as a company, they are contracted to never reveal their personal self to the audience. It protect both them and the company. On the other hand though. They are still free to do almost anything else without using their Hololive name. Plenty of the talents are still active on their personal channels and some are kinda well known. They are not allowed to link those 2 or however many extra personalities they have with Hololive. If the fans find out about their past/current lives Usually they just choose not to talk about it and stick to whoever is being "played" at the time. So in short, it's not like people don't know who the talents actually are. We just know to keep them separated from their real selves. A good Music Video to potentially watch, although it is one that gets copywritten very easily, is "Can You Do the Hololive" on the official channel. This gives a very brief introduction to all the members that were active at the time of making the song. So Jp gen 1-5 ID gen 1&2 as well as EN's HoloMyth. Basically in this song they all speak say their name out-loud with "mostly" they normal stream introduction. So it can help you with their actually pronunciations.
You touched on this but I just wanted to bring up the point again. You mention the whole avatar aspect making it easier on them, but most of the talents tried to get into the irl idol industry before hololive and were rejected (or were idols in the past and trying to start again). This was their way to become the idols they wanted to be in the first place
Suisei said it herself in a chat after the First Take came out.. there are lots of other v-tubers that she'd say are much better singers out there.. they're just waiting to be discovered. streaming for Hololive is automatically a huge boost in recognition from day 1- at least nowadays it is. the early members had to put in the grind to build up the Hololive brand. Apparently the members are the ones covering their own costs for music production, but i imagine they have more industry connections available to them by being in Hololive now.
Yes that is correct. Largely the talents are covering their own costs for original songs, but seemingly they do get some monetary assistance on it these days. Moona spoke about it a bit at some point last year. It may be just for people that don't have much in the way of original music yet. Someone like Suisei or Watame are likely covering most of their own costs. All cover songs are entirely paid by talents and generally almost never pay for themselves back in ad revenue.
I believe there a many inspiring artist waiting to be discovered but do you think they will get the right contract. It seems to me it’s heavily invested with very small returns. Depending on what you want out of it
@@UNCLEMOMO it seems like there are a lot more options now for artists to get their music out without having to rely on contracts with labels/platforms etc.. ie bandcamp, patreon, channel subs. music makers might wish to only focus on making music, but it still takes business savvy to maximize returns.. whether that means making money or reaching a wider audience.
Towa is def one of the power house vocalist in Holo and her performance of Error was super powerful and probably one of the reasons Palette exist. Cover started as a tech company in a very real way, Hololive was basically created for Sora to become an idol. Some kind of way A-chan, one of the production staff members of Cover, and Sora's irl friend from highschool managed to convince the CEO to start this all up in order to support her friends dream
The proof of concept for vtubers as they’re understood today was Kizuna Ai, who debuted in 2016 and quickly became popular. Her popularity inspired a lot of people to follow suit. Tokino Sora was one such person, and she and her friend A-Chan (Hololive staff and creative director who also appears as a vtuber on the Hololive main channel) approached tech startup Cover Corp to find the tech to make it happen (while today, vtubers can use a simple smartphone app to get started, back then more substantial technology was needed). Only 13 people watched Sora’s first stream in 2018, but she hung in there and as she did Hololive added members. Five years later Sora just celebrated hitting one million subscribers, joining dozens of Hololive members who have already crossed that mark. As for Towa, she’s got one of my favorite voices in Hololive. This song is beautiful, but my favs from her are her heavier tracks. With her voice, she is born to really rock. Check out My Roar (マイロア) or Born to be Real from her Scream EP next. They don’t have music videos, but are killer songs all on their own.
@@UNCLEMOMOOnly 13 actually watched her stream the first time she debuted on September 7, 2017 on NicoNico (Japanese RUclips). There weren't many vtuber at that time. And Sora once told her fans that she almost gave up but she very lucky because 2018 was the year Sora's name started to rise. Although there were also many challenges she faced at that time. In 2019 she signed a record deal with Victor Entertainment in 2019 and that time not many vtuber get that offer.She held her first solo concert, Dream!, and released her first album. This year is the 6th year for Sora and Hololive.Thanks to her attitude of not giving up, we can see Hololive exist and continue to be more successful until now.
Glad you checked out Towa! Yeah some of them have very different singing voices. Towa is one of them and Watame is in a similar boat. Not sure on Towa's reasons, but Watame wanted to sound more cute, upbeat and energetic for her streams. Also I missed the community post! YT community page hates me apparently. I'll make sure to try and catch the next one. Watame's My Song will always be my recommendation though. lol I will say that for Watame she was struggling greatly until she made it into Hololive. Nobody listened to her music until joining Hololive opened the door for her, so she's vastly appreciative of what the place has done for her and she loves doing what she's doing and puts her all into it. Some others in Hololive don't focus entirely on their Hololive persona and Cover doesn't force them to stop activities on their pre-hololive activities unless it's as a vtuber contracted with a different company. In the end it really depends what they want to do, but Hololive is a massive boon either way. Also you might be aware already but Suisei is on The First Take again Wendesday at 22:00 JST!
It's part that they don't want to be seen, it's also that some of these are people who fell through the cracks of the irl industry (take suisei. She auditioned for all the major labels/agencies and they turned her down), you also have that many of these people, while talented, may have problems that makes them unable to succeed in a world were they have to show their faces (many have social anxiety disorders, or aren't "tv" pretty, ect.), Or they were on the path towards that path to success but had their careers derailed(there was a huge upsurge of people trying to be vtubers when everything was cancelled due to covid for example). There are a whole host of reasons why this, rather than the "traditional" route
Towa pitches up her voice alot when she streams. She sings in her natural voice and I love it so much! Towa is an Akuma, a devil. But there is a running joke where she does something wholesome and her fans call her TMT, Towa Maji Tenshi, which means Towa is an Angel. I suggest Reflect by Gawr Gura. She's the most subbed vtuber in the world, approaching 5mil. ruclips.net/video/nCQ_zZIiGLA/видео.html Its her first original song. Oh! And you have to watch Kanata@ recent cover of Unravel that she did live. It's insane! ruclips.net/video/m7MuUadCV90/видео.html
The "maji" in TMT is a bit more nuanced, and is closer to "is actually." Since her character lore is that she's a Devil, TMT is more like "Towa is actually an Angel, not a Devil." She vehemently denies being an Angel, and often chastises Chat when they spam TMT (which is often). When it first started happening, Towa once tried to counter Chat by chanting "TMD! TMD!" standing for Towa Maji Devil. Chat immediately turned it around into Towa Maji Daitenshi (archangel). Oh, I forgot that she first tried Towa Maji Akuma (devil) chanting "TMA! TMA!" which chat just turned into Towa Maji Angel instead. These interactions between the talents and their audience is a very unique experience, and one of the major drivers behind the popularity of Hololive.
This song has a deeper meaning, it's about her real past, from hitting rock bottom to being saved by her fans and her sidekick. by the way , Towasama maji tenshi .
trying to pronounce all their names correctly is the sweetest thing. Your reactions are becoming some of my favorite videos on this platform. Your energy and smile are contagious
In my opinion, the thing I enjoy with singers with no face is that I can just look at the song as a song and avoid the more judgemental side I have when there is a face or person I can see. I think that is also why a lot of good artists are becoming faceless, so that we can just enjoy the song, the voice and there is no real need to have a good face/body with it.
14:10 So a crash course on the history of Hololive and vtubing as we know it today: The term "vtuber" short for virtual youtuber was coined by Kizuna Ai, who was the first to use the anime character avatar with facetracking in lieu of a facecam of a traditional youtuber. The gimmick of her channel and her character was that she's a sentient artificial intelligence using her RUclips channel as a means to communicate with humans, hence "virtual youtuber". Tokino Sora (pronounced So-rah) was one of the early adopters of this vtuber style following Kizuna Ai's success. Sora and her best friend that we know as "A-chan" or "Employee A" approached the C.E.O. of a local virtual reality tech startup known as Cover Corp to borrow his VR technology to allow Sora to become a virtual idol in a similar way to how Kizuna was a virtual gamer. Thus, Sora became the first talent streaming under Cover Corp's label, and A-chan became the first behind-the-scenes staff member (hence the nickname "Employee A"). Later, the Cover Corp C.E.O. Motoaki "Yagoo" Tanigou (pronounced Yah-go) expanded this idea by hiring more aspiring vtubers to form what is now known as Hololive. Because the first member Sora pitched the idea as a virtual idol, Yagoo structured the company similar to IRL Japanese Idol Agencies such as AKB48, which is why so many of the Hololive talents tend to be musically inclined, and some absolute gems like what you've been listening to so far. Although her direct fanbase may be relatively small (just recently reaching 1M subscribers compared to newer members treading the 2M-5M range), Sora is highly respected by all Hololive members and fans. (edit: corrected the upper range. Gawr Gura, the most subscribed vtuber in the world, is approaching 5M. I previously thought she was already past 6M)
@@UNCLEMOMO Sorry, my field of work in data analytics has somewhat numbed me to large numbers 🤣 Most of the growth in vtubers (particularly those in large agencies such as Hololive or Nijisanji) is through collaboration. Each of them typically aims for their own niche - for example, Ninomae Ina'nis (Ina//Ee-Nah) mostly does drawing streams and calm games, which gives her a very similar energy to Bob Ross, where viewers can just tune in, listen to her smooth calm voice as she draws something amazing. This is very different from the gremlin/bratty kid energy (some have drawn Bart Simpson/Dennis the Menace analogues) that Gawr Gura (Goo-rah) emulates. Normally, the audiences of these two very different niches don't overlap much, but through their collaboration and great chemistry with each other, there's quite a bit of fan bleed-over. Other niches that members have carved out include (but are not limited to) badass yet goofy FPS gaming from Shishiro Botan, Noir Vesper's "old man complains about how Zoomer culture makes no damn sense and occasionally breaks into anecdotal tangents about his own misguided youth", ASMR and comfy gaming from Ceres Fauna, college math studying streams with Kureiji Ollie, the long-term character lore building arc (several years in the making) of Akai Haato/Haachama's split personalities vying for control over their shared RUclips channel, Ayunda Risu's infamous Nonstop Nut November, and much much more. The cross pollination from so many different corners of the internet leads to fairly noticeable growth spurts (the rising tide raises all ships, after all). Even this recent boom from general music enjoyers such as yourself finding Suisei's First Take and exploring the rabbit hole from that as a starting point has led to a sizeable swell across the board as new people are discovering content creators they wouldn't have found otherwise. Thus, a fanbase of 1M subscribers isn't necessarily one fanbase, but several dozen fanbases bleeding into each other. Basically companies like Hololive or Nijisanji act like any other talent agency such as a big music record label or a big movie studio. Once you get enough talented people under one banner, the banner itself begins to carry its own prestige.
I'm so glad you're enjoying these wonderful artists! Towa is a personal favourite, along with AZKi. If I were to recommend a starting point for AZKi, the most common suggestion is "Inochi", a beautiful song that is a perfect introduction to AZKi's vibe and style, but I'd also recommend "Afterglow". "Afterglow" thematically flows on extremely well from Inochi, while also being incredibly captivating. Both have English subtitles in the captions, too!
Yeah, Towa has an "streaming voice" and a "singing voice". First time takes you off-guard completely! Palette is a extremely personal song for her, it's basically a tank-you song for her fans, represented by that little black devil she has in the videos, named Bibi, for sticking with her trough her career, wich was off to a rocky start back when she started due to part of her fans being idiots with parasocial relationship problems. Before entering Hololive most of the girls had either experience making music or streaming and they presented themselves for audition. The reasons for being a Vtuber and using an avatar are quite varied, ranging from "Gives me a model and a lore to play with and be unique" to "i just don't want to show my face due to my introvertedness, but having a model in between helps me" Now, for my recomendations, there are WAY TOO MANY, so I'll keep it to a couple favorites: Aki Rosenthal (Rô-sen-tal) - "Shalys" (Has english subs too), Mori Calliope (Cal - eye- o -p, we just call her Cali) - "Off with Their Heads", Takanashi Kiara (Ta-ka-na-shi, aspired h) - Hinotori(Also subs), Houshous Marine (Ho-Sho Ma-rin) - "I'm your tresure Box" (Has subs) Aki is memeber of the second generation, a Half-elf transported from her world to ours and has a very soothing voice. Mori Calliope is from Hololives English 1st generation "Myth" and she is a Grim Reaper, in a hiatus from reaping souls, so now she's rapping. Kiara is Mori's teammate in Myth and she's a phoenix in human form caaring and energetic, and has previous experience as a musical performer IRL. Houshou Marin is from the 3rd gen of hololive japan, HoloFantasy, and she is a pirate captain, and also one of the most.... spicier members of the group. She literally has a meme of her saying, with reberv, "I'm Horny". Yep. Viewer discretion is advised lol
The framed photo at the end of this video has deep significance as well. When she first debuted, Towa had a lot of haters because of her voice not being the typical cutesy girl voice. When her generation got their 3D models, she stunned everyone with her adorable energetic body language and fun stage presence. That photo was adapted from an actual screenshot of her during her 3D debut stream that went viral, and marked a turning point in her career.
In the words of Healthygamergg when he interview ironmouse (prominent vtuber on twitch): "Many people hide their true selves to be accepted in their lifes using a mask of the person the people want them to be, but you (vtubers), hide their faces to be the most close to your true self" Which in my opinion its the best side of vtubers, they dont need to hide, or try to be something they dont need to be, their are exposing their true feelings with a mask of an anime character. They dont need to be judge by their appearance, you are seeing them by how they truely are.
@@UNCLEMOMO there is, holofes which is celebrated every year, an expo and a live concert, recently they announced holofes 4, we will have many members of the English branch debuting new idol outfits and 3d models. Also many members of English and Indonesian branches are invited as guests in many different anime conventions through the year.
Oooo... another Hololive music reaction, and this time it's Towa, often referred to as TMT (Towa Maji Tenshi - "Towa's really an Angel")! Love Towa, and I'm always surprised at how sultry her singing voice is compared to her streaming/gaming voice. Looking forward to all the performers in your queue, they're all great! The list does seem to be very heavy with JP Holomems, would love you to check out a few of the Holo EN (English) and ID (Indonesia) members too, especially Moona Hoshinova (ID), IRyS (EN), Gawr Gura (EN), Anya Melfissa (ID, she also has a great collab song with several other Holomems), Nanashi Mumei (EN) and Hakos Baelz (EN). Certainly don't want to interfere with the poll results, but a sprinkling of EN and ID members into your poll options would be great. EDIT: Looks like Uncle Momo already saw Moona's High Tide, so another ID Talent that is underappreciated for her singing voice is Kureiji Ollie, her Million Subscriber medley celebration was very impressive, singing so many different songs from different Hololive members, but maybe it's a bit too long of a video to react to without some necessary cuts and editing, and maybe should be left for later after first seeing the originals.
There are 70+ members of Hololive and Holostars at this point. The rabbit hole is as vast as it is deep. Nearly every member has made an original song by this point, and many many covers, along with karaoke streams. While a community poll is great, there's just far too much that exists to rely on it. What I recommend is you watch one of the Top 100 Hololive Original Songs ranking compilation videos, find the ones you want to learn more about, and go from there.
Towa is Champion ranked in Apex, that's what the E-Sports part is about. I recomend reacting to Tsunomaki Watame's "My Song" and Aki Rosenthal's "Shallys" too. Aki invented an elven language for that song because her "lore" is that she is an alien half-elf, and she made the language for the song, not just making nonsense sounds but matching each word and verb with a word so her elven language actually has structure to it. About Tokino Sora, she was a high school girl with the dream of being an "idol", but she was a little shy and several idol agencies rejected her. Then she saw Kizuna AI, the very first to use the word "Virtual RUclipsr", and she saw it as a way to maybe achieve her dream, so she approached Cover Corp. which was a tech company working on AR tech and pitched the idea of having a VTuber, and the CEO Motoaki Tanigo, known as "Yagoo" to Hololive fans, saw her potential and started a branch within Cover called "Hololive" to showcase her and Cover's AR tech.....and that's what gave birth to the Hololive we have today.
I've been pitching My Song too, but Shallys is excellent for sure. As a little addendum to your second point, I'd also say that something Yagoo wanted to do with Hololive is give voiceless girls a voice (and platform). I think they have also succeeded spectacularly. For people that know their oshi well it's impressive how many of them struggled only to find a lifeline in this place.
@@Helmir Mr. Helmir, you and I are Watamates, and have even exchanged some posts on r/Hololive, your dedication to Watame is legendary, as is your support for all the other members
Towa will always be one of my favorites, I enjoy everything she puts out. You have covered my No1 in Risu and my No3 in Towa, I would love for you to check out Natsuiro Matsuri (Na-tsu-i-ro Ma-tsu-ri) but it would have to be a cover as her two singles don't highlight her voice as much as I believe it could be. I recommend her cover of Kataomoi by Aimer, but honestly I love all of her covers
Most of the Hololive talents actually struggled to get into the music industry, but were rejected time after time. A few of them were accepted into idol groups, only for them to be dropped and their career ending there. Hololive gave them a way to truly showcase their talents to the world unburdened by the politics, corruption and filth of the entertainment industry (especially in Japan).
Many Hololive members tried to get into the music industry in general before being part of Hololive , but for one reason or another were unable to do so, some example are: - Tokino Sora was trained has an opera singer and wanted to be a classical musician, but was told that she has not talent for it and in fact she could damage her throat if she continue. - Many members tried to become normal idols but couldn't make it, Hoshimachi Suisei was rejected for being a "jack of all, master of none" type character. Natsuiro Matsuri studied at an idol school but could never enter the industry. Momosuzu Nene was an underground idol (independent idol that performs in small venues) but never made it big, Hololive was her last chance, and she was rejected 3 times before she was accepted into Hololive. Hakui Koyori was in a similar situation to Nene, trying for many years to be an idol, even going on variety programs on TV, but never making it big. - Amane Kanata's also wanted to be an idol, but due to an illness she lost almost all of her hearing in one ear, she thought she couldn't be a musician anymore so she joined Hololive as a vtuber, since then she has realized that she can still accomplish her dream of being an idol while being a vtuber. - Some members were already singers before joining Hololive, Azki was a famous utaite (term for a singer from Nico Nico Douga, a Japanese video site) with more than a decade of experience and highly respected, she still works as an independent musician in top of being part of Hololive. Yozora Mel was also an underground idol but she decided to refocus her life and concentrate more on her career in Hololive. - Some of them worked in music adjacent stuff, for example, Aki Rosenthal is/was a belly dancing instructor and A-chan did DJing as a hobby before Hololive, but since then she has worked on official stuff for the company and has released several remixes of the members' original songs on the official Hololive channel. Another thing to take into account is that Hololive didn't start as an idol company or even a music company, but as a vtuber company, so many of the early members didn't even have musical background (and some of the new members still don't), Oozora Subaru being the best example, she not only had no musical training, she knew nothing about otaku culture and only joined Hololive because she needed money because her house burned down.
I feel like, as far as the singing (rather than the video game streaming) is concerned, a lot of the vtuber culture comes from the utaite phenomenon that started around 2007. Basically, people posting videos as Utattemita (歌ってみた, literally "tried to sing") in the Japanese video-sharing website niconicodouga. Of course, they also often have songs that aren't just covers. Some famous Japanese singers also started like that. For an example you've reacted to, Ado started as an utaite herself after admiring them and imitating those she liked. A lot of the more singing-oriented vtubers started as utaite. The vtuber phenomenon allowed them to start interacting more with their audience without having to necessarily show themselves, I guess. An example would be my favorite singer, Hanatan. She started as an utaite in 2008 and has become a vtuber (still independent) a year ago. If that interests you, I'd recommend looking up "Hanatan - Tengaku" on youtube.
Towa - My Roar is amazing too, serious heavy metal vibes. Also Suisei had a concert yesterday with a massive live crowd, could make for a really interesting reaction. The first 3 songs from the concert were streamed on her channel, so you can find it here: ruclips.net/video/USmUfG_-Sn8/видео.html
Taunomaki Watame is one of my faves, I hope she is on that list cuz she also puts a lot of work on her music career and has a clear goal of performing on the biggest stage of Japan, I would recommend her songs "Mayday Mayday" "My Song" "Aimai Chocolate", with those 3 you can get a glance on the variety of styles she manages.
a lot of vtubers pitch up their voices in order to sound more energetic or to not get recognized in public by their voices, but sing more naturally. Suisei actually did this for most of her career as well but switched to her more natural deeper voice due to health issues concerning her throat. I'm pretty sure there's a video showing the difference that you can watch if you're curious. There's a lot of videos or meme videos about real voices for many vtubers.
I know this is a wild recommendation, but you should check out Houshou Marine too. Although she's more on the mature, possibly not family friendly side, but a lot of fun! Her original MVs are beautifully animated as well. I would recommend Ahoy!, I'm your treasure box, and Unison.
I actually don't think Towa's range is all that different from, say, Suisei's, I think it's just a matter of her tone and timbre, probably vocal placement too. She's got a very bassy oomph to her voice and it makes her sound like she's singing lower than she actually is even when singing in her upper range.
@@UNCLEMOMO You put * before and after the part you want to bold. Example: * this will be bolded if I remove the spaces * *this will be bolded if I remove the spaces*
I really wanna see you react to live Hololive concert - Like the Housho Marine Show era concert, or Aki Rose musical or the recent Amane Kanata concert.
There's also a lot of artists who just can't break through the walls of the industry despite their incredible talent. Suisei is a perfect example of someone who couldn't break into the mainstream industry, and vtubing and Hololive is what gave her all the opportunities to not just be herself but to dedicate herself to pursuing her dreams of performing. That's the case for a lot of Hololive's talents in general. To name a few examples: - Tokino Sora started off as a normal virtual streamer talent, before she suggested to the CEO of Cover Corp (the company that Hololive belongs to) that they try moving into idol activities - which has since brought absolute prosperity to the company and its talents. She's said that she wants to perform on one of Japan's biggest stadiums, and every year thanks to her and the other girls' efforts that dream feels like it's getting closer and closer. - Sakura Miko always wanted to be an idol and was inspired to join by Sora, and overcame a lot of her own self-doubts and confidence issues to grow into the innovative, talented performer she is today - Oozora Subaru ironically joined Hololive because she needed a part-time job because her family's house burned down, only for her to turn into one of their brightest shining talents and performers - Calliope was an underground rapper who both dreamed of making it big but also never thought it'd ever happen and wound up auditioning for Hololive mostly as a joke, only now she has a record deal with Universal.
Thankfully it's a lot more supportive. The talents all have direct interactions with the CEO, who lets them meme and joke around with him. If anything, Cover's CEO might be one of the nicest CEOs out there. There are at times restrictions on what the girls can or cannot do for copyright purposes or because management is worried it might bring down unnecessary or unintended negativity on the girls, but that's more often than not coming from a place of wanting to protect the talents than control them.
Enjoying your exploration into the rabbit hole from a musical stand-point. Hololive, let alone the wider VTubing scene, can be daunting at first given the volume of content that's put out, but I'm loving your breakdown of the songs so far. Amongst the many recommendations you've been getting, I haven't seen any mention yet for "Inochi" by one of their artists called AZKi. It acts as quite a bit of an anthem for a lot of the girls, Suisei included, given AZKi was a trendsetter for the music side of VTubing in the later 2010s, and she is very much one of the most revered members of their agency - even with Suisei's and Calli's breakout successes. Beyond that, a couple of signature tracks of those you've already reacted to; Calli with "Off With Their Heads" or "Red", and Watame with "My Song", are amongst my favourites. Also, another English speaking member of them, called IRyS, has a sizable discography, with a very different sound to most that you've heard. One of hers is called "Here Comes Hope" that I think you'll enjoy, to see how varied their music is. Past the most musically focused members, there's individual tracks put out by the other members, who focus more on their online streaming and content creation over larger bodies of music, yet they're also incredibly talented themselves. I'll go ahead and put Gawr Gura's "Reflect" out there - I'm certain someone else will have recommended it by now since it's a) a beloved track in general, and b) Gura sits as the most subscribed VTuber on RUclips so her overall popluarity is huge. Ina's song "Violet" is also a must for a lot of people. On the Japanese side, I'd recommend Marine's "Unison" for another unique experience. On Marine, you'll also likely get recommended another of her songs called "Treasure Box", it's... very risky to put on RUclips, is all I'll say, but still a fantastic song in it's own right. Also, they're not limited to just solo performances. Some of Hololive's most frequently enjoyed songs are collabrative efforts. Songs such as "Blue Clapper", "Stardust", "Suspect", and "Candy Go Round" are ridiculously catchy. Hope to see more of you enjoying their tracks!!
You mentioned heavy metal while listening. If you want to hear THE most metal song in Hololive, check out Towa's 'My Roar'. It's crazy. No music video yet, but it is on RUclips.
Reaction to Towa-sama?! Satisfactory!! Subscribed, can't wait to see what next you'll react to. Hopefully it's more Towa, like "ERROR" or "Hearts". But if you'd like, you can also see music from Hololive's English branch as well. A funny thing about the talents of Hololive is that there's one song, "KING" that almost all of them covered. Same song, same lyrics, just slightly different due to the style and the voice of each talent (except for the cover done by Gawr Gura and Mori Calliope, which is way different).
@@UNCLEMOMO I'm not sure why they would all play the same song, but I suppose you could say it was the "trend" of the time. Everyone was still just as excited to see the announcement of each one at their time of their release, and we all waited to see who would be next. You can also say that this is one of the many comedic things the talents do, with the community referring to them as "comedians" instead of "idols".
* Being part of Hololive allows them to be in contact with many people in the entertainment industry (not just the music industry, but also artists for their videos, merchandising, etc.). But being in an agency doesn't mean that their success is a given or that they are rich. Some people have the idea that being a Vtuber only requires a few hours a week, that you just have to play and make tons of money. Becoming a popular content creator like they are is a lot of hard work and exhausting, both mentally and physically. Hololive gave a voice to the voiceless (even though most of them were pretty decently/well established content creators before joining in). It saved a bunch of them, not just by giving them a second chance but literally. If you delve into the meanings of a lot of the Hololive talent's songs (especially their originals), they deal a lot with their struggles and fears that they've encountered and you get a strong feeling of how appreciative they are of Hololive where they've found a sense of belonging. ** Relating to the previous point, 'Palette' is exactly that for Towa, it's really a song about her journey to becoming who she is now. She performed it in concert a while back and she cried while singing it. She get a lot of hate at some point in her early days because of some incident...but then the international audience appears and basically saved her. The little hat (named Bibi) towards the end of the video is her pet guardian and can be considered as a representation of her fans. *** As for recommandations, let's go with "Howling" by Ookami Mio
I been waiting on this, So u got the To-ko-Ya-Me part right and the To Wa part is without an H Ive said it in the previous message youve seen this was basically about Her and for her community(Kenzoku), Im now gonna recommend her cover of Error + the live version of Error cuz its just..spectacular And for even more Towa, her first cover i believe? The cover of "Brilliant" I heard u say Roboco got suggested, i recommend her original "Little bit" and the live performance or her cover of "King'' or "Bocca della verità " Also at 10:30 where she is smiling thats actually taken from Her livestream while she was performing
Someone will be able to tell how hololive (and Tokino Sora) started better than me. As for the main question, the harsh truth that a lot of these talents faced is that getting in the musical industry of big labels is hard, and often going indie requires a big economic investment (prices in Japan are more costly than in most western countries) with low expectations of success. Starting as a streamer is a mid-step that many tried and are trying, since allows to get a fanbase and becoming able to fuel your own preparation (vocal training, physical training, equipments and on) at the expense of spending a lot of time in streams that have not much to do with music. From there to use a Virtual Avatar, is only a little step. In fact, many recent additions to the Holopro (Hololive main company, that also contains the group of Holostars) are admittedly former indie streamer. To make an example, Suisei (yes, that Suisei) was rejected at auditions for certain established labels, so she rigged her own virtual avatar and self-debuted as indie, later joining hololive. That was... around 4 years ago, I think. So, to put it down briefly: many of these extremely talented people would have probably remained in the mass of the good (or even exceptional) artists that few people actually notice. Hololive gave them the meaning to fuel their own dreams and is a comfortable "home" for most of them, even if they have to put more effort into it than they would as artists supported by a major label (you will find more than few songs that are almost love songs dedicated to their fans).
@@UNCLEMOMO More than "a lot of money", is a job. Instead than doing part-times (which, some of them do anyway), they work as streamers. Without going in the exact amounts (that are a guess, since the earning from streams are split with RUclips and then between the talent and the agency), some of them evidently channel their attentions into music and everything that gravitates around it. Others are primarily gaming streamers, or art streamers or just any other kind of entertainment they focus on. But, no, there should not be millionaire vtubers, at least not in the meaning we give in the west. As far as most go, however, they are mostly comfortable with their work (which is a big factor), and they can use the earnings to pursue their interests. This is why you'll find some extremely talented artists in this niche.
towa is great! i didn't know you switched to a community vote. i will try not to miss it. is it okay to still recommend them here? if so just recommending watame and okayu again!
bao the whale - 52 hearts ruclips.net/video/JNsYaefCe-Y/видео.html very lovely voice, very chill and soft tone. there is also Ironmouse using her operatic voice ruclips.net/video/chXKCqMM3E4/видео.html song above is When I Look At You from The Scarlet Pimpernel. you can get a sample of her operatic ability from these two clips: sempre libera ruclips.net/video/OlP6EUAiaM8/видео.html ave maria ruclips.net/video/UdfW1wk8S4o/видео.html
About japanese pronunciation, see tthis sinbols (katakana), オリジナル, each one is a sillables. So, this sequence coverts to "o ri ji na ru", trhe 曲 is another alphabeth (kanji) and means music. オリジナル曲 tranlate to orginal music. Mote the "R" was used instead "L" because there is no L im japanese. And finaly, when you transcribe japanise to roman alfabeth, a is aways like "ah", e is like "tent" ,i and y is like in "fix", o is like in "fox", u and w is like in "put". atakana alphabetn: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katakana
Hololive is a way for Japanese artists to be artists without having to belong to normal Japan idol culture. The avatar is a great protection and freeing, even cali, whose indie name is widely known and continues to work benefits from the separation from the fans and the soft fantasy of the persona being a vtuber allows. It is also a great way for the company to keep the rights of the music since they own the character so when they provide contacts and resources they won’t go to waste if a talent leaves. The way I look at it, vtubing is something between method acting and wrestling personas where they get to step into a new character not bound by whatever limits they have in real life, and getting to just play. All with a separation that normal streamers and artists don’t get As for why they don’t do it as themselves, several have but chose to vtube instead out of other interests or what is demanded of idles in real life. Others tried but didn’t make it anywhere of note forr r many reasons, some didn’t have the look of the moment or whatever Even more, though don’t see themselves as singers first in the first place, ame Watson from hololive en is a great example, she put out a solo original recently that is very fun and well done but she is 100% a streamer first and wants that to be the focal point of her time, even if music is a fun thing and she has more talent then she realized
@@UNCLEMOMO RUclips is a major center for HoloLive. The "community" as I'm calling it is just the fanbase that consumes VTuber content. As for the social media, RUclips, Twitter, Twitch, and Reddit are some of the main platforms, but it branches out to Facebook, Instagram and Tiktok. RUclips is the most popular platform for the content, but the second most might be Twitch. Discord servers are great places to share content.
Thank you for your pleasant reactions. I am a Japanese living in Japan. The Japanese popular music culture since 2007 has a very unique character, which is also strongly related to the Vtuber culture. In 2007, a singing synthesis software with the trade name Vocaloid2 初音ミク (Ha-tsu-ne Mi-ku) was launched. This software "sings songs in a female voice when melodies and lyrics are entered into the computer". Since 2007, many amateur popular musicians have been using this and other types of singing synthesis software to write songs and publish them online. The number of songs is huge: there will be hundreds of thousands of songs in 2023. The musician 'niki', who created the song 'Pallette', is another person who has become well-known for his work with singing synthesis software. To-ko-ya-mi To-wa has published several very good covers of niki's work, but these, too, have had their vocals 'sung' by singing synthesis software on the original songs. Once a large number of songs using singing synthesis software were released, a popular music culture emerged in which "amateur singers covered works created using singing synthesis software and released them online". As a result of the combination of "a large number of original songs created using singing synthesis software" and "a large number of amateur singers covering original songs", the number of "amateur singers with a high level of singing ability" in Japan has increased abnormally. As the number of good amateur singers increases, it becomes more difficult to get a contract with a music agency as a professional singer. This is because there is more competition. Even Ho-shi-ma-chi Su-i-se-i failed all auditions before becoming a Vtuber. In Japan, there are "too many good amateur singers, and as a result, it is difficult to work as a professional singer". Some Vtubers, such as To-ko-ya-mi To-wa and Ho-shi-ma-chi Su-i-se-i, "have the ability to work as professional singers, but have decided to become Vtubers because of the unique situation of Japanese popular music culture". There are quite a few of them. (Automatic translation from Japanese to English. Apologies for any unnatural parts.)
Heh don't worry about the pronunciation of my name. It does seem my pronunciations were somewhat off on a few but it still sounds better than others I've heard. My name is pronounced the same as degenerate though. I didn't go into the specifics of the songs due to there being so many its difficult to keep up.
Thank you for explaining so it De Gen (any time I go through your list (which will be most times) I will be taking to you through my reactions so watch out for that 👊🏾
towa stands out amongst the hololive singers. cause she is the only one with a deep singing voice like this. i really like her songs. when she is streaming on the otherhand it sounds like this : ruclips.net/video/XdszptywksU/видео.html
I wouldn't say she's the only one, Lui gets right down there as well. Also Polka's vocal range is enormous in both directions meaning she can pull off super high stuff like this: ruclips.net/video/5EuqR0GavMk/видео.html AND pull off super low stuff like this: ruclips.net/video/Iw0FJmgwdPQ/видео.html
Couple things to note. Them being in Cover as a company, they are contracted to never reveal their personal self to the audience. It protect both them and the company. On the other hand though. They are still free to do almost anything else without using their Hololive name. Plenty of the talents are still active on their personal channels and some are kinda well known. They are not allowed to link those 2 or however many extra personalities they have with Hololive. If the fans find out about their past/current lives Usually they just choose not to talk about it and stick to whoever is being "played" at the time.
So in short, it's not like people don't know who the talents actually are. We just know to keep them separated from their real selves.
A good Music Video to potentially watch, although it is one that gets copywritten very easily, is "Can You Do the Hololive" on the official channel. This gives a very brief introduction to all the members that were active at the time of making the song. So Jp gen 1-5 ID gen 1&2 as well as EN's HoloMyth. Basically in this song they all speak say their name out-loud with "mostly" they normal stream introduction. So it can help you with their actually pronunciations.
You touched on this but I just wanted to bring up the point again. You mention the whole avatar aspect making it easier on them, but most of the talents tried to get into the irl idol industry before hololive and were rejected (or were idols in the past and trying to start again). This was their way to become the idols they wanted to be in the first place
One of her softer songs. She also does some great rock.
Love rock❤️❤️ show me the way
Suisei said it herself in a chat after the First Take came out.. there are lots of other v-tubers that she'd say are much better singers out there.. they're just waiting to be discovered. streaming for Hololive is automatically a huge boost in recognition from day 1- at least nowadays it is. the early members had to put in the grind to build up the Hololive brand. Apparently the members are the ones covering their own costs for music production, but i imagine they have more industry connections available to them by being in Hololive now.
Yes that is correct. Largely the talents are covering their own costs for original songs, but seemingly they do get some monetary assistance on it these days. Moona spoke about it a bit at some point last year. It may be just for people that don't have much in the way of original music yet. Someone like Suisei or Watame are likely covering most of their own costs. All cover songs are entirely paid by talents and generally almost never pay for themselves back in ad revenue.
I believe there a many inspiring artist waiting to be discovered but do you think they will get the right contract. It seems to me it’s heavily invested with very small returns. Depending on what you want out of it
@@UNCLEMOMO it seems like there are a lot more options now for artists to get their music out without having to rely on contracts with labels/platforms etc.. ie bandcamp, patreon, channel subs. music makers might wish to only focus on making music, but it still takes business savvy to maximize returns.. whether that means making money or reaching a wider audience.
Towa is def one of the power house vocalist in Holo and her performance of Error was super powerful and probably one of the reasons Palette exist. Cover started as a tech company in a very real way, Hololive was basically created for Sora to become an idol. Some kind of way A-chan, one of the production staff members of Cover, and Sora's irl friend from highschool managed to convince the CEO to start this all up in order to support her friends dream
That’s a really good friend ♥️
The proof of concept for vtubers as they’re understood today was Kizuna Ai, who debuted in 2016 and quickly became popular. Her popularity inspired a lot of people to follow suit. Tokino Sora was one such person, and she and her friend A-Chan (Hololive staff and creative director who also appears as a vtuber on the Hololive main channel) approached tech startup Cover Corp to find the tech to make it happen (while today, vtubers can use a simple smartphone app to get started, back then more substantial technology was needed). Only 13 people watched Sora’s first stream in 2018, but she hung in there and as she did Hololive added members. Five years later Sora just celebrated hitting one million subscribers, joining dozens of Hololive members who have already crossed that mark.
As for Towa, she’s got one of my favorite voices in Hololive. This song is beautiful, but my favs from her are her heavier tracks. With her voice, she is born to really rock. Check out My Roar (マイロア) or Born to be Real from her Scream EP next. They don’t have music videos, but are killer songs all on their own.
Wow she come a long way from 15 views, I remember when I was struggling for 10 subscribers 😂🤣😂
@@UNCLEMOMOOnly 13 actually watched her stream the first time she debuted on September 7, 2017 on NicoNico (Japanese RUclips). There weren't many vtuber at that time. And Sora once told her fans that she almost gave up but she very lucky because 2018 was the year Sora's name started to rise. Although there were also many challenges she faced at that time. In 2019 she signed a record deal with Victor Entertainment in 2019 and that time not many vtuber get that offer.She held her first solo concert, Dream!, and released her first album.
This year is the 6th year for Sora and Hololive.Thanks to her attitude of not giving up, we can see Hololive exist and continue to be more successful until now.
Glad you checked out Towa!
Yeah some of them have very different singing voices. Towa is one of them and Watame is in a similar boat. Not sure on Towa's reasons, but Watame wanted to sound more cute, upbeat and energetic for her streams. Also I missed the community post! YT community page hates me apparently. I'll make sure to try and catch the next one. Watame's My Song will always be my recommendation though. lol
I will say that for Watame she was struggling greatly until she made it into Hololive. Nobody listened to her music until joining Hololive opened the door for her, so she's vastly appreciative of what the place has done for her and she loves doing what she's doing and puts her all into it. Some others in Hololive don't focus entirely on their Hololive persona and Cover doesn't force them to stop activities on their pre-hololive activities unless it's as a vtuber contracted with a different company. In the end it really depends what they want to do, but Hololive is a massive boon either way.
Also you might be aware already but Suisei is on The First Take again Wendesday at 22:00 JST!
I’m ready lol
8bit Drummer's mentioned it, that Towa's songs tend to have that Christian praise rock rhythm.
It's part that they don't want to be seen, it's also that some of these are people who fell through the cracks of the irl industry (take suisei. She auditioned for all the major labels/agencies and they turned her down), you also have that many of these people, while talented, may have problems that makes them unable to succeed in a world were they have to show their faces (many have social anxiety disorders, or aren't "tv" pretty, ect.), Or they were on the path towards that path to success but had their careers derailed(there was a huge upsurge of people trying to be vtubers when everything was cancelled due to covid for example). There are a whole host of reasons why this, rather than the "traditional" route
Towa pitches up her voice alot when she streams. She sings in her natural voice and I love it so much!
Towa is an Akuma, a devil. But there is a running joke where she does something wholesome and her fans call her TMT, Towa Maji Tenshi, which means Towa is an Angel.
I suggest Reflect by Gawr Gura. She's the most subbed vtuber in the world, approaching 5mil.
ruclips.net/video/nCQ_zZIiGLA/видео.html
Its her first original song.
Oh! And you have to watch Kanata@ recent cover of Unravel that she did live. It's insane!
ruclips.net/video/m7MuUadCV90/видео.html
The "maji" in TMT is a bit more nuanced, and is closer to "is actually." Since her character lore is that she's a Devil, TMT is more like "Towa is actually an Angel, not a Devil." She vehemently denies being an Angel, and often chastises Chat when they spam TMT (which is often). When it first started happening, Towa once tried to counter Chat by chanting "TMD! TMD!" standing for Towa Maji Devil. Chat immediately turned it around into Towa Maji Daitenshi (archangel).
Oh, I forgot that she first tried Towa Maji Akuma (devil) chanting "TMA! TMA!" which chat just turned into Towa Maji Angel instead.
These interactions between the talents and their audience is a very unique experience, and one of the major drivers behind the popularity of Hololive.
@Zierlyn Didn't she call herself a daitenshi by mistake doing trying to change it?
Also, does she still summon the kaigainiki with a desk slam?
@@AnimeSquirrel she did indeed, and she went very silent at that moment, it was both hilarious and adorable xD
Thank you so much for your amazing support please don’t stop ❤️
This song has a deeper meaning, it's about her real past, from hitting rock bottom to being saved by her fans and her sidekick. by the way , Towasama maji tenshi .
Side kick? I’m just about trying to remember all of there names 🤣😂🤣
trying to pronounce all their names correctly is the sweetest thing. Your reactions are becoming some of my favorite videos on this platform. Your energy and smile are contagious
Thank you very much, please watch out for voting in my community page on watch should be my next HoloLive reaction ❤️♥️
In my opinion, the thing I enjoy with singers with no face is that I can just look at the song as a song and avoid the more judgemental side I have when there is a face or person I can see.
I think that is also why a lot of good artists are becoming faceless, so that we can just enjoy the song, the voice and there is no real need to have a good face/body with it.
It’s what’s we have been fed all these years and now they are feeding us something different
Humans attention span is about on average 8 seconds, if the song or video doesn't deliver, then it becomes very hard.
These songs definitely delivers.
1000% percent
14:10 So a crash course on the history of Hololive and vtubing as we know it today:
The term "vtuber" short for virtual youtuber was coined by Kizuna Ai, who was the first to use the anime character avatar with facetracking in lieu of a facecam of a traditional youtuber. The gimmick of her channel and her character was that she's a sentient artificial intelligence using her RUclips channel as a means to communicate with humans, hence "virtual youtuber".
Tokino Sora (pronounced So-rah) was one of the early adopters of this vtuber style following Kizuna Ai's success. Sora and her best friend that we know as "A-chan" or "Employee A" approached the C.E.O. of a local virtual reality tech startup known as Cover Corp to borrow his VR technology to allow Sora to become a virtual idol in a similar way to how Kizuna was a virtual gamer. Thus, Sora became the first talent streaming under Cover Corp's label, and A-chan became the first behind-the-scenes staff member (hence the nickname "Employee A"). Later, the Cover Corp C.E.O. Motoaki "Yagoo" Tanigou (pronounced Yah-go) expanded this idea by hiring more aspiring vtubers to form what is now known as Hololive. Because the first member Sora pitched the idea as a virtual idol, Yagoo structured the company similar to IRL Japanese Idol Agencies such as AKB48, which is why so many of the Hololive talents tend to be musically inclined, and some absolute gems like what you've been listening to so far.
Although her direct fanbase may be relatively small (just recently reaching 1M subscribers compared to newer members treading the 2M-5M range), Sora is highly respected by all Hololive members and fans. (edit: corrected the upper range. Gawr Gura, the most subscribed vtuber in the world, is approaching 5M. I previously thought she was already past 6M)
How hard is it to reach those numbers once having an avatar?
@@UNCLEMOMO Sorry, my field of work in data analytics has somewhat numbed me to large numbers 🤣
Most of the growth in vtubers (particularly those in large agencies such as Hololive or Nijisanji) is through collaboration. Each of them typically aims for their own niche - for example, Ninomae Ina'nis (Ina//Ee-Nah) mostly does drawing streams and calm games, which gives her a very similar energy to Bob Ross, where viewers can just tune in, listen to her smooth calm voice as she draws something amazing. This is very different from the gremlin/bratty kid energy (some have drawn Bart Simpson/Dennis the Menace analogues) that Gawr Gura (Goo-rah) emulates. Normally, the audiences of these two very different niches don't overlap much, but through their collaboration and great chemistry with each other, there's quite a bit of fan bleed-over.
Other niches that members have carved out include (but are not limited to) badass yet goofy FPS gaming from Shishiro Botan, Noir Vesper's "old man complains about how Zoomer culture makes no damn sense and occasionally breaks into anecdotal tangents about his own misguided youth", ASMR and comfy gaming from Ceres Fauna, college math studying streams with Kureiji Ollie, the long-term character lore building arc (several years in the making) of Akai Haato/Haachama's split personalities vying for control over their shared RUclips channel, Ayunda Risu's infamous Nonstop Nut November, and much much more. The cross pollination from so many different corners of the internet leads to fairly noticeable growth spurts (the rising tide raises all ships, after all). Even this recent boom from general music enjoyers such as yourself finding Suisei's First Take and exploring the rabbit hole from that as a starting point has led to a sizeable swell across the board as new people are discovering content creators they wouldn't have found otherwise.
Thus, a fanbase of 1M subscribers isn't necessarily one fanbase, but several dozen fanbases bleeding into each other.
Basically companies like Hololive or Nijisanji act like any other talent agency such as a big music record label or a big movie studio. Once you get enough talented people under one banner, the banner itself begins to carry its own prestige.
I'm so glad you're enjoying these wonderful artists! Towa is a personal favourite, along with AZKi. If I were to recommend a starting point for AZKi, the most common suggestion is "Inochi", a beautiful song that is a perfect introduction to AZKi's vibe and style, but I'd also recommend "Afterglow". "Afterglow" thematically flows on extremely well from Inochi, while also being incredibly captivating. Both have English subtitles in the captions, too!
Thank you very much I left a message in my community page regarding my next reaction ♥️
Yeah, Towa has an "streaming voice" and a "singing voice". First time takes you off-guard completely! Palette is a extremely personal song for her, it's basically a tank-you song for her fans, represented by that little black devil she has in the videos, named Bibi, for sticking with her trough her career, wich was off to a rocky start back when she started due to part of her fans being idiots with parasocial relationship problems.
Before entering Hololive most of the girls had either experience making music or streaming and they presented themselves for audition. The reasons for being a Vtuber and using an avatar are quite varied, ranging from "Gives me a model and a lore to play with and be unique" to "i just don't want to show my face due to my introvertedness, but having a model in between helps me"
Now, for my recomendations, there are WAY TOO MANY, so I'll keep it to a couple favorites: Aki Rosenthal (Rô-sen-tal) - "Shalys" (Has english subs too), Mori Calliope (Cal - eye- o -p, we just call her Cali) - "Off with Their Heads", Takanashi Kiara (Ta-ka-na-shi, aspired h) - Hinotori(Also subs), Houshous Marine (Ho-Sho Ma-rin) - "I'm your tresure Box" (Has subs)
Aki is memeber of the second generation, a Half-elf transported from her world to ours and has a very soothing voice. Mori Calliope is from Hololives English 1st generation "Myth" and she is a Grim Reaper, in a hiatus from reaping souls, so now she's rapping. Kiara is Mori's teammate in Myth and she's a phoenix in human form caaring and energetic, and has previous experience as a musical performer IRL. Houshou Marin is from the 3rd gen of hololive japan, HoloFantasy, and she is a pirate captain, and also one of the most.... spicier members of the group. She literally has a meme of her saying, with reberv, "I'm Horny". Yep. Viewer discretion is advised lol
I can’t believe I read your comment twice 🤣😂🤣
The framed photo at the end of this video has deep significance as well. When she first debuted, Towa had a lot of haters because of her voice not being the typical cutesy girl voice. When her generation got their 3D models, she stunned everyone with her adorable energetic body language and fun stage presence. That photo was adapted from an actual screenshot of her during her 3D debut stream that went viral, and marked a turning point in her career.
Surely HoloLive fans want to see differences between all artist.
In the words of Healthygamergg when he interview ironmouse (prominent vtuber on twitch): "Many people hide their true selves to be accepted in their lifes using a mask of the person the people want them to be, but you (vtubers), hide their faces to be the most close to your true self"
Which in my opinion its the best side of vtubers, they dont need to hide, or try to be something they dont need to be, their are exposing their true feelings with a mask of an anime character. They dont need to be judge by their appearance, you are seeing them by how they truely are.
Is there a comicon of HoloLive? Like they have with comic books
@@UNCLEMOMO there is, holofes which is celebrated every year, an expo and a live concert, recently they announced holofes 4, we will have many members of the English branch debuting new idol outfits and 3d models. Also many members of English and Indonesian branches are invited as guests in many different anime conventions through the year.
Oooo... another Hololive music reaction, and this time it's Towa, often referred to as TMT (Towa Maji Tenshi - "Towa's really an Angel")!
Love Towa, and I'm always surprised at how sultry her singing voice is compared to her streaming/gaming voice.
Looking forward to all the performers in your queue, they're all great! The list does seem to be very heavy with JP Holomems, would love you to check out a few of the Holo EN (English) and ID (Indonesia) members too, especially Moona Hoshinova (ID), IRyS (EN), Gawr Gura (EN), Anya Melfissa (ID, she also has a great collab song with several other Holomems), Nanashi Mumei (EN) and Hakos Baelz (EN). Certainly don't want to interfere with the poll results, but a sprinkling of EN and ID members into your poll options would be great.
EDIT: Looks like Uncle Momo already saw Moona's High Tide, so another ID Talent that is underappreciated for her singing voice is Kureiji Ollie, her Million Subscriber medley celebration was very impressive, singing so many different songs from different Hololive members, but maybe it's a bit too long of a video to react to without some necessary cuts and editing, and maybe should be left for later after first seeing the originals.
Nothing is too long for me if I enjoy it, it’s a case of who would want to see me 🤣😂🤣
There are 70+ members of Hololive and Holostars at this point. The rabbit hole is as vast as it is deep. Nearly every member has made an original song by this point, and many many covers, along with karaoke streams. While a community poll is great, there's just far too much that exists to rely on it. What I recommend is you watch one of the Top 100 Hololive Original Songs ranking compilation videos, find the ones you want to learn more about, and go from there.
I will go through all 70 😎
Towa is Champion ranked in Apex, that's what the E-Sports part is about. I recomend reacting to Tsunomaki Watame's "My Song" and Aki Rosenthal's "Shallys" too. Aki invented an elven language for that song because her "lore" is that she is an alien half-elf, and she made the language for the song, not just making nonsense sounds but matching each word and verb with a word so her elven language actually has structure to it.
About Tokino Sora, she was a high school girl with the dream of being an "idol", but she was a little shy and several idol agencies rejected her. Then she saw Kizuna AI, the very first to use the word "Virtual RUclipsr", and she saw it as a way to maybe achieve her dream, so she approached Cover Corp. which was a tech company working on AR tech and pitched the idea of having a VTuber, and the CEO Motoaki Tanigo, known as "Yagoo" to Hololive fans, saw her potential and started a branch within Cover called "Hololive" to showcase her and Cover's AR tech.....and that's what gave birth to the Hololive we have today.
I've been pitching My Song too, but Shallys is excellent for sure.
As a little addendum to your second point, I'd also say that something Yagoo wanted to do with Hololive is give voiceless girls a voice (and platform). I think they have also succeeded spectacularly. For people that know their oshi well it's impressive how many of them struggled only to find a lifeline in this place.
You pitching? You’re the reason why I’m still falling down rabbit hole……I’ll never forget who pushed me 😂🤣😂👊🏾👊🏾
@@UNCLEMOMO LOL. I pretty relentlessly try and push Watame. Have been for years. Still a lot of talent in Hololive in general though.
@@Helmir Mr. Helmir, you and I are Watamates, and have even exchanged some posts on r/Hololive, your dedication to Watame is legendary, as is your support for all the other members
@@Helmir is there a HoloLive theme annual event where HoloLive fans can dress up as there favourite artist?
Towa will always be one of my favorites, I enjoy everything she puts out. You have covered my No1 in Risu and my No3 in Towa, I would love for you to check out Natsuiro Matsuri (Na-tsu-i-ro Ma-tsu-ri) but it would have to be a cover as her two singles don't highlight her voice as much as I believe it could be. I recommend her cover of Kataomoi by Aimer, but honestly I love all of her covers
Thank you, my list keeps on getting bigger 😂🤣😂
Most of the Hololive talents actually struggled to get into the music industry, but were rejected time after time. A few of them were accepted into idol groups, only for them to be dropped and their career ending there. Hololive gave them a way to truly showcase their talents to the world unburdened by the politics, corruption and filth of the entertainment industry (especially in Japan).
So the normal industry taking the piss
Many Hololive members tried to get into the music industry in general before being part of Hololive , but for one reason or another were unable to do so, some example are:
- Tokino Sora was trained has an opera singer and wanted to be a classical musician, but was told that she has not talent for it and in fact she could damage her throat if she continue.
- Many members tried to become normal idols but couldn't make it, Hoshimachi Suisei was rejected for being a "jack of all, master of none" type character. Natsuiro Matsuri studied at an idol school but could never enter the industry. Momosuzu Nene was an underground idol (independent idol that performs in small venues) but never made it big, Hololive was her last chance, and she was rejected 3 times before she was accepted into Hololive. Hakui Koyori was in a similar situation to Nene, trying for many years to be an idol, even going on variety programs on TV, but never making it big.
- Amane Kanata's also wanted to be an idol, but due to an illness she lost almost all of her hearing in one ear, she thought she couldn't be a musician anymore so she joined Hololive as a vtuber, since then she has realized that she can still accomplish her dream of being an idol while being a vtuber.
- Some members were already singers before joining Hololive, Azki was a famous utaite (term for a singer from Nico Nico Douga, a Japanese video site) with more than a decade of experience and highly respected, she still works as an independent musician in top of being part of Hololive. Yozora Mel was also an underground idol but she decided to refocus her life and concentrate more on her career in Hololive.
- Some of them worked in music adjacent stuff, for example, Aki Rosenthal is/was a belly dancing instructor and A-chan did DJing as a hobby before Hololive, but since then she has worked on official stuff for the company and has released several remixes of the members' original songs on the official Hololive channel.
Another thing to take into account is that Hololive didn't start as an idol company or even a music company, but as a vtuber company, so many of the early members didn't even have musical background (and some of the new members still don't), Oozora Subaru being the best example, she not only had no musical training, she knew nothing about otaku culture and only joined Hololive because she needed money because her house burned down.
It seems to me that every HoloLive artist has a story that will melt the hearts and inspiration to others to carry on
I feel like, as far as the singing (rather than the video game streaming) is concerned, a lot of the vtuber culture comes from the utaite phenomenon that started around 2007. Basically, people posting videos as Utattemita (歌ってみた, literally "tried to sing") in the Japanese video-sharing website niconicodouga. Of course, they also often have songs that aren't just covers. Some famous Japanese singers also started like that.
For an example you've reacted to, Ado started as an utaite herself after admiring them and imitating those she liked.
A lot of the more singing-oriented vtubers started as utaite. The vtuber phenomenon allowed them to start interacting more with their audience without having to necessarily show themselves, I guess.
An example would be my favorite singer, Hanatan. She started as an utaite in 2008 and has become a vtuber (still independent) a year ago. If that interests you, I'd recommend looking up "Hanatan - Tengaku" on youtube.
Thank you very interesting read I will check out Hanatan ♥️
Towa - My Roar is amazing too, serious heavy metal vibes.
Also Suisei had a concert yesterday with a massive live crowd, could make for a really interesting reaction. The first 3 songs from the concert were streamed on her channel, so you can find it here: ruclips.net/video/USmUfG_-Sn8/видео.html
Guess what I just did 😂🤣😊 I’ve got a silly habit of doing it, I was supposed to watch 1min of it…..x I didn’t I watch much more of it
Taunomaki Watame is one of my faves, I hope she is on that list cuz she also puts a lot of work on her music career and has a clear goal of performing on the biggest stage of Japan, I would recommend her songs "Mayday Mayday" "My Song" "Aimai Chocolate", with those 3 you can get a glance on the variety of styles she manages.
The voting will start tomorrow on my community page
This song captivated me in a way that I can "feel" the story without knowing nihongo.
It gave me a similar body feeling like “let it snow” (feelings…..not song)
a lot of vtubers pitch up their voices in order to sound more energetic or to not get recognized in public by their voices, but sing more naturally. Suisei actually did this for most of her career as well but switched to her more natural deeper voice due to health issues concerning her throat. I'm pretty sure there's a video showing the difference that you can watch if you're curious. There's a lot of videos or meme videos about real voices for many vtubers.
Thank you for your insight and advice respect 😎
I know this is a wild recommendation, but you should check out Houshou Marine too. Although she's more on the mature, possibly not family friendly side, but a lot of fun! Her original MVs are beautifully animated as well.
I would recommend Ahoy!, I'm your treasure box, and Unison.
Thank you Haru ❤️
I just realized you still need to do reaper vs sheep part 2
Part 2??? I’ll add that to the voting, so far I got error, my song watame & now reaper Vs sheep pt2
I actually don't think Towa's range is all that different from, say, Suisei's, I think it's just a matter of her tone and timbre, probably vocal placement too. She's got a very bassy oomph to her voice and it makes her sound like she's singing lower than she actually is even when singing in her upper range.
It’s leave a comfy feeling with the lower vocals
You should watch Amane Kanata's recent live concert performance of Unravel
It was *insane*
How do you do the bold letters😊
@@UNCLEMOMO
You put * before and after the part you want to bold. Example:
* this will be bolded if I remove the spaces *
*this will be bolded if I remove the spaces*
I really wanna see you react to live Hololive concert - Like the Housho Marine Show era concert, or Aki Rose musical or the recent Amane Kanata concert.
Concert reactions can’t wait for those, I’m really holding myself back from watching them cos I won’t react to it if I do.
There's also a lot of artists who just can't break through the walls of the industry despite their incredible talent. Suisei is a perfect example of someone who couldn't break into the mainstream industry, and vtubing and Hololive is what gave her all the opportunities to not just be herself but to dedicate herself to pursuing her dreams of performing.
That's the case for a lot of Hololive's talents in general. To name a few examples:
- Tokino Sora started off as a normal virtual streamer talent, before she suggested to the CEO of Cover Corp (the company that Hololive belongs to) that they try moving into idol activities - which has since brought absolute prosperity to the company and its talents. She's said that she wants to perform on one of Japan's biggest stadiums, and every year thanks to her and the other girls' efforts that dream feels like it's getting closer and closer.
- Sakura Miko always wanted to be an idol and was inspired to join by Sora, and overcame a lot of her own self-doubts and confidence issues to grow into the innovative, talented performer she is today
- Oozora Subaru ironically joined Hololive because she needed a part-time job because her family's house burned down, only for her to turn into one of their brightest shining talents and performers
- Calliope was an underground rapper who both dreamed of making it big but also never thought it'd ever happen and wound up auditioning for Hololive mostly as a joke, only now she has a record deal with Universal.
I fear that the HoloLive music industry behind the scene are just as crazy as the pop industry
Thankfully it's a lot more supportive. The talents all have direct interactions with the CEO, who lets them meme and joke around with him. If anything, Cover's CEO might be one of the nicest CEOs out there. There are at times restrictions on what the girls can or cannot do for copyright purposes or because management is worried it might bring down unnecessary or unintended negativity on the girls, but that's more often than not coming from a place of wanting to protect the talents than control them.
Patiently waiting for My Song by Watame.. Lyrics hit like a brick to the back of the head..
It will be added to the voting on my community page tomorrow 😎
Enjoying your exploration into the rabbit hole from a musical stand-point. Hololive, let alone the wider VTubing scene, can be daunting at first given the volume of content that's put out, but I'm loving your breakdown of the songs so far.
Amongst the many recommendations you've been getting, I haven't seen any mention yet for "Inochi" by one of their artists called AZKi. It acts as quite a bit of an anthem for a lot of the girls, Suisei included, given AZKi was a trendsetter for the music side of VTubing in the later 2010s, and she is very much one of the most revered members of their agency - even with Suisei's and Calli's breakout successes.
Beyond that, a couple of signature tracks of those you've already reacted to; Calli with "Off With Their Heads" or "Red", and Watame with "My Song", are amongst my favourites. Also, another English speaking member of them, called IRyS, has a sizable discography, with a very different sound to most that you've heard. One of hers is called "Here Comes Hope" that I think you'll enjoy, to see how varied their music is.
Past the most musically focused members, there's individual tracks put out by the other members, who focus more on their online streaming and content creation over larger bodies of music, yet they're also incredibly talented themselves. I'll go ahead and put Gawr Gura's "Reflect" out there - I'm certain someone else will have recommended it by now since it's a) a beloved track in general, and b) Gura sits as the most subscribed VTuber on RUclips so her overall popluarity is huge. Ina's song "Violet" is also a must for a lot of people. On the Japanese side, I'd recommend Marine's "Unison" for another unique experience. On Marine, you'll also likely get recommended another of her songs called "Treasure Box", it's... very risky to put on RUclips, is all I'll say, but still a fantastic song in it's own right.
Also, they're not limited to just solo performances. Some of Hololive's most frequently enjoyed songs are collabrative efforts. Songs such as "Blue Clapper", "Stardust", "Suspect", and "Candy Go Round" are ridiculously catchy. Hope to see more of you enjoying their tracks!!
HoloLive fans are creating a library for me 🤩
You should react to her ERROR cover too. It's a banger.
I’m reading a lot of recommendations of Error I think we are all on the same page
Palette is awesome!
Also i recommend My Song from Tsunomaki Watame, it's one of the best hololive songs.
You mentioned heavy metal while listening. If you want to hear THE most metal song in Hololive, check out Towa's 'My Roar'. It's crazy. No music video yet, but it is on RUclips.
Thank you I will check it out Korinthian 👊🏾
Reaction to Towa-sama?! Satisfactory!! Subscribed, can't wait to see what next you'll react to. Hopefully it's more Towa, like "ERROR" or "Hearts". But if you'd like, you can also see music from Hololive's English branch as well.
A funny thing about the talents of Hololive is that there's one song, "KING" that almost all of them covered. Same song, same lyrics, just slightly different due to the style and the voice of each talent (except for the cover done by Gawr Gura and Mori Calliope, which is way different).
Why would they do that?
@@UNCLEMOMO I'm not sure why they would all play the same song, but I suppose you could say it was the "trend" of the time. Everyone was still just as excited to see the announcement of each one at their time of their release, and we all waited to see who would be next.
You can also say that this is one of the many comedic things the talents do, with the community referring to them as "comedians" instead of "idols".
thank you for your reaction Uncle Momo!)
My pleasure
* Being part of Hololive allows them to be in contact with many people in the entertainment industry (not just the music industry, but also artists for their videos, merchandising, etc.).
But being in an agency doesn't mean that their success is a given or that they are rich. Some people have the idea that being a Vtuber only requires a few hours a week, that you just have to play and make tons of money. Becoming a popular content creator like they are is a lot of hard work and exhausting, both mentally and physically.
Hololive gave a voice to the voiceless (even though most of them were pretty decently/well established content creators before joining in). It saved a bunch of them, not just by giving them a second chance but literally. If you delve into the meanings of a lot of the Hololive talent's songs (especially their originals), they deal a lot with their struggles and fears that they've encountered and you get a strong feeling of how appreciative they are of Hololive where they've found a sense of belonging.
** Relating to the previous point, 'Palette' is exactly that for Towa, it's really a song about her journey to becoming who she is now. She performed it in concert a while back and she cried while singing it.
She get a lot of hate at some point in her early days because of some incident...but then the international audience appears and basically saved her. The little hat (named Bibi) towards the end of the video is her pet guardian and can be considered as a representation of her fans.
*** As for recommandations, let's go with "Howling" by Ookami Mio
It’s a great story when the artist opens up on a personal level ❤️♥️ it allows us in
[Link below] Here's a curveball for your polls. Sakura Miko's cover of:
アカリがやってきたぞっ (Akari has Arrived)
Link:
ruclips.net/video/K57XcDsUl6A/видео.html
Where the link?
@@UNCLEMOMO Click "read more." It should be at the bottom of the comment above.
I been waiting on this, So u got the To-ko-Ya-Me part right and the To Wa part is without an H
Ive said it in the previous message youve seen this was basically about Her and for her community(Kenzoku), Im now gonna recommend her cover of Error + the live version of Error cuz its just..spectacular
And for even more Towa, her first cover i believe? The cover of "Brilliant"
I heard u say Roboco got suggested, i recommend her original "Little bit" and the live performance or her cover of "King'' or "Bocca della verità "
Also at 10:30 where she is smiling thats actually taken from Her livestream while she was performing
Nice pitched 👊🏾❤️
Someone will be able to tell how hololive (and Tokino Sora) started better than me. As for the main question, the harsh truth that a lot of these talents faced is that getting in the musical industry of big labels is hard, and often going indie requires a big economic investment (prices in Japan are more costly than in most western countries) with low expectations of success.
Starting as a streamer is a mid-step that many tried and are trying, since allows to get a fanbase and becoming able to fuel your own preparation (vocal training, physical training, equipments and on) at the expense of spending a lot of time in streams that have not much to do with music. From there to use a Virtual Avatar, is only a little step.
In fact, many recent additions to the Holopro (Hololive main company, that also contains the group of Holostars) are admittedly former indie streamer.
To make an example, Suisei (yes, that Suisei) was rejected at auditions for certain established labels, so she rigged her own virtual avatar and self-debuted as indie, later joining hololive. That was... around 4 years ago, I think.
So, to put it down briefly: many of these extremely talented people would have probably remained in the mass of the good (or even exceptional) artists that few people actually notice. Hololive gave them the meaning to fuel their own dreams and is a comfortable "home" for most of them, even if they have to put more effort into it than they would as artists supported by a major label (you will find more than few songs that are almost love songs dedicated to their fans).
So is there a lot of money to be made in this industry? And is there a millionaire holographic artist?
@@UNCLEMOMO More than "a lot of money", is a job.
Instead than doing part-times (which, some of them do anyway), they work as streamers. Without going in the exact amounts (that are a guess, since the earning from streams are split with RUclips and then between the talent and the agency), some of them evidently channel their attentions into music and everything that gravitates around it. Others are primarily gaming streamers, or art streamers or just any other kind of entertainment they focus on.
But, no, there should not be millionaire vtubers, at least not in the meaning we give in the west.
As far as most go, however, they are mostly comfortable with their work (which is a big factor), and they can use the earnings to pursue their interests. This is why you'll find some extremely talented artists in this niche.
towa is great! i didn't know you switched to a community vote. i will try not to miss it.
is it okay to still recommend them here? if so just recommending watame and okayu again!
I will doing a lot of community votes straight after my reaction of HoloLive performance today on the first take,
bao the whale - 52 hearts ruclips.net/video/JNsYaefCe-Y/видео.html
very lovely voice, very chill and soft tone.
there is also Ironmouse using her operatic voice ruclips.net/video/chXKCqMM3E4/видео.html
song above is When I Look At You from The Scarlet Pimpernel.
you can get a sample of her operatic ability from these two clips: sempre libera ruclips.net/video/OlP6EUAiaM8/видео.html
ave maria ruclips.net/video/UdfW1wk8S4o/видео.html
thank you for the link and information
About japanese pronunciation, see tthis sinbols (katakana), オリジナル, each one is a sillables. So, this sequence coverts to "o ri ji na ru", trhe 曲 is another alphabeth (kanji) and means music. オリジナル曲 tranlate to orginal music. Mote the "R" was used instead "L" because there is no L im japanese. And finaly, when you transcribe japanise to roman alfabeth, a is aways like "ah", e is like "tent" ,i and y is like in "fix", o is like in "fox", u and w is like in "put".
atakana alphabetn: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katakana
Back to school I go 🧐 there’s no L? I didn’t know that❤️
Hololive is a way for Japanese artists to be artists without having to belong to normal Japan idol culture.
The avatar is a great protection and freeing, even cali, whose indie name is widely known and continues to work benefits from the separation from the fans and the soft fantasy of the persona being a vtuber allows.
It is also a great way for the company to keep the rights of the music since they own the character so when they provide contacts and resources they won’t go to waste if a talent leaves.
The way I look at it, vtubing is something between method acting and wrestling personas where they get to step into a new character not
bound by whatever limits they have in real life, and getting to just play. All with a separation that normal streamers and artists don’t get
As for why they don’t do it as themselves, several have but chose to vtube instead out of other interests or what is demanded of idles in real life. Others tried but didn’t make it anywhere of note forr r many reasons, some didn’t have the look of the moment or whatever
Even more, though don’t see themselves as singers first in the first place, ame Watson from hololive en is a great example, she put out a solo original recently that is very fun and well done but she is 100% a streamer first and wants that to be the focal point of her time, even if music is a fun thing and she has more talent then she realized
I’ve got to check out the merchandise
I'm going to guess the user's name "Degen" is like "Degenerate" which fits with some of the inside jokes of the community.
Yes Degen…….what community? I’m on discord and Reddit but I don’t know how to use it yet. Is there any HoloLive on these two sites?
@@UNCLEMOMO RUclips is a major center for HoloLive. The "community" as I'm calling it is just the fanbase that consumes VTuber content. As for the social media, RUclips, Twitter, Twitch, and Reddit are some of the main platforms, but it branches out to Facebook, Instagram and Tiktok. RUclips is the most popular platform for the content, but the second most might be Twitch. Discord servers are great places to share content.
@@UNCLEMOMO "r/Hololive HoloLove Production" is the main subreddit for HoloLive.
Thank you for your pleasant reactions.
I am a Japanese living in Japan.
The Japanese popular music culture since 2007 has a very unique character, which is also strongly related to the Vtuber culture.
In 2007, a singing synthesis software with the trade name Vocaloid2 初音ミク (Ha-tsu-ne Mi-ku) was launched.
This software "sings songs in a female voice when melodies and lyrics are entered into the computer".
Since 2007, many amateur popular musicians have been using this and other types of singing synthesis software to write songs and publish them online.
The number of songs is huge: there will be hundreds of thousands of songs in 2023.
The musician 'niki', who created the song 'Pallette', is another person who has become well-known for his work with singing synthesis software.
To-ko-ya-mi To-wa has published several very good covers of niki's work, but these, too, have had their vocals 'sung' by singing synthesis software on the original songs.
Once a large number of songs using singing synthesis software were released, a popular music culture emerged in which "amateur singers covered works created using singing synthesis software and released them online".
As a result of the combination of "a large number of original songs created using singing synthesis software" and "a large number of amateur singers covering original songs", the number of "amateur singers with a high level of singing ability" in Japan has increased abnormally.
As the number of good amateur singers increases, it becomes more difficult to get a contract with a music agency as a professional singer. This is because there is more competition.
Even Ho-shi-ma-chi Su-i-se-i failed all auditions before becoming a Vtuber.
In Japan, there are "too many good amateur singers, and as a result, it is difficult to work as a professional singer".
Some Vtubers, such as To-ko-ya-mi To-wa and Ho-shi-ma-chi Su-i-se-i, "have the ability to work as professional singers, but have decided to become Vtubers because of the unique situation of Japanese popular music culture". There are quite a few of them.
(Automatic translation from Japanese to English. Apologies for any unnatural parts.)
Your words translated perfectly thank you for the breakdown
Heh don't worry about the pronunciation of my name. It does seem my pronunciations were somewhat off on a few but it still sounds better than others I've heard.
My name is pronounced the same as degenerate though.
I didn't go into the specifics of the songs due to there being so many its difficult to keep up.
Thank you for explaining so it De Gen (any time I go through your list (which will be most times) I will be taking to you through my reactions so watch out for that 👊🏾
towa stands out amongst the hololive singers. cause she is the only one with a deep singing voice like this.
i really like her songs.
when she is streaming on the otherhand it sounds like this : ruclips.net/video/XdszptywksU/видео.html
I wouldn't say she's the only one, Lui gets right down there as well.
Also Polka's vocal range is enormous in both directions meaning she can pull off super high stuff like this: ruclips.net/video/5EuqR0GavMk/видео.html
AND pull off super low stuff like this: ruclips.net/video/Iw0FJmgwdPQ/видео.html
Okay so who’s got the highest pitch?
TMT!!